tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post6802129396028552311..comments2024-03-09T19:23:22.482-03:00Comments on The RPGPundit: "Leaders" and the Real Social Dynamics of Gaming GroupsRPGPundithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-18363488556413476702013-10-11T19:46:14.121-03:002013-10-11T19:46:14.121-03:00Well again, emergent order is precisely what I'...Well again, emergent order is precisely what I'm talking about here. I don't think there's any way you could do a forced order; you can't just say to a guy "you will be the beta player" or something like that. I'm talking about how to UNDERSTAND emergent order, and how its important.RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-31488040037750516902013-10-11T16:28:05.975-03:002013-10-11T16:28:05.975-03:00What a stupid way to go about things. Just let thi...What a stupid way to go about things. Just let things emerge naturally. Players will find their dynamics in different situations. Emergent order is the way to go. Viva anarchy!GRIMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08222147769420307719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-23088543019578006622013-10-10T02:18:45.424-03:002013-10-10T02:18:45.424-03:0025+ years of running very long-term gaming groups ...25+ years of running very long-term gaming groups of diverse makeup disagree with you there, Rorschachhamster. However, I think that perhaps the mistake you're making is in thinking this is somehow openly "defined"; are you envisioning a scenario where the group sits down and someone says "ok, you're the beta player, and this guy here is clearly the omega player, etc..."?<br />Because that's not what happens. I would imagine a group where someone (or everyone) sat down and declared such a thing probably wouldn't work well at all, sure; but no one is talking about that. We're talking about unspoken dynamics that emerge as a group gets to know one another and unconsciously establishes hierarchies.RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-31170792612826222992013-10-09T23:09:53.549-03:002013-10-09T23:09:53.549-03:00The innate dynamics of a given group are much more...The innate dynamics of a given group are much more complicated than the alpha/beta/other scheme you propagate - at least if we are speaking of adults. And if you define a need for leadership for the players, instead of the characters, I don't believe I ever saw this working longer than 1-2 sessions before the group was done for even as a non-adult, back in the days... <br />But I have limited experience in this regard - as I said, I tend to play with friends, and the simplistic model doesn't work there (or ever, probably). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-91940424656530802352013-10-09T21:48:32.660-03:002013-10-09T21:48:32.660-03:00The fact that you game with friends doesn't me...The fact that you game with friends doesn't mean that any human group doesn't automatically have innate dynamics. You seem to think its an either-or situation but its not.RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-11485888565128402452013-10-09T19:51:16.129-03:002013-10-09T19:51:16.129-03:00Well, in any group, this will form pretty naturall...Well, in any group, this will form pretty naturally, and for different roles. I guess I see it more as a technocratic thing:<br />Some players are good at coming up with bluffs and speeches, some add colour or humour, one guy always brings snacks and one guy is good at tactical planning. <br /><br />As long as you avoid the people who can't share the spotlight, it's all goodWeaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05873440251698488032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-33354257281803429482013-10-09T19:21:52.054-03:002013-10-09T19:21:52.054-03:00I usually game with friends - not Alphas, Betas or...I usually game with friends - not Alphas, Betas or Omegas... o_Ô <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com