tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post2877991523908581343..comments2024-03-09T19:23:22.482-03:00Comments on The RPGPundit: Is the Apocalypse Fast Approaching??RPGPundithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-18449432918993783542014-12-17T00:13:25.906-03:002014-12-17T00:13:25.906-03:00The community as a whole did not decide on any thi...The community as a whole did not decide on any thing. Some see banning the game as hypocritical and cowardly act by OBS. A few cheer on as the game got ban. Most don't care, or had not heard of the news because they don't go online to game.<br /><br />Now I don't care for Grim's game, but it is a slippery slope they created. Which company is next to get piss off and threaten OBS to do some censoring? Don't act like it won't happen because it will. Would it be another minor guy who just does it for the love, or will it be some indie game company that people care about? Will Onyx Path threaten OBS to take out Evil Hat? Unlikely and holy shit that would be karma. Still it is still possible now. That is what scares people.Snowman0147https://www.blogger.com/profile/04811245101715889991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-17748118168368690712014-12-16T21:48:18.263-03:002014-12-16T21:48:18.263-03:00Free markets don't breed monopolies. Rigged m...Free markets don't breed monopolies. Rigged markets do. We all live with rigged markets, which is why monopolies occur.maasenstodthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08901306527875471546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-73223781379611166602014-12-16T20:58:51.321-03:002014-12-16T20:58:51.321-03:00Well sure, it's the internet. No one will car...Well sure, it's the internet. No one will care about this in a month who doesn't have a personal reason to care about it; but you can say that about just about anything on the internet. <br /><br />They'll care about it again in another 6 months or so, when they'll reference it in the next Outrage Brigade Outrage Scandal.RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-57657267934916065112014-12-16T20:02:57.644-03:002014-12-16T20:02:57.644-03:00Was it a public comment? Got a link for referring ...Was it a public comment? Got a link for referring purposes and context?Skyrockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01370119160117937254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-45546596133127028612014-12-16T18:52:20.913-03:002014-12-16T18:52:20.913-03:00The immediate response to that post on Twitter was...The immediate response to that post on Twitter was overwhelmingly consistent. At this point, a few days on, nobody on Twitter seems to care about this any more. Maybe there's a bit of negative response here and there, but "considerable negative response ... all over G+, blogs and forums" is a pretty strong claim. I'm unconvinced. <br /><br />I'd bet that a month from now -- at the most -- nobody will remember this game, or OBS's choice to drop it. The only exceptions will be big publishers, who have now set a precedent for influencing OBS, and James Desborough, who will have sold more copies due to the controversy than he ever would have on DTRPG. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759499976909882483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-70962398737415751842014-12-16T17:17:32.352-03:002014-12-16T17:17:32.352-03:00So a dozen of the usual suspects is "overwhel...So a dozen of the usual suspects is "overwhelming"? Pseudo-activists like to rally the troops to have the appearance of a mass-movement. It's what they do. And there's been considerable negative response to the banning all over G+, blogs and forums, much of it from people who have no truck with the gamergaters.RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-72595288293467581002014-12-16T16:33:57.395-03:002014-12-16T16:33:57.395-03:00OBS's letter to publishers devotes a paragraph...OBS's letter to publishers devotes a paragraph to community feedback. <br /><br />You can see the overwhelmingly negative response on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/drivethrurpg/status/540462372842770434Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759499976909882483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-34366009490574766182014-12-16T15:08:47.170-03:002014-12-16T15:08:47.170-03:00"The community found the material to be objec..."The community found the material to be objectionable"? Sez you. Those are weasel words like "It's believed that" and "Some say." Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-85492551145079752732014-12-16T14:35:28.274-03:002014-12-16T14:35:28.274-03:00What fallout do you think there will be? Some OSR ...What fallout do you think there will be? Some OSR folks have written blog posts about it, but the community is small and insular. There was a bit of momentum on /r/KotakuInAction, but the post about this in /r/rpg got no traction.<br /><br />It's admirable that OBS went so long without screening content, but dropping this game was really their only option. The community found the material to be objectionable, to the point that it posed a risk to OBS's bottom line.<br /><br />Would you put your money out on the line for content like this? If so, do it. As it stands, nobody seems to care enough to realistically consider challenging OBS's monopoly. My guess is that this is because they realize that the bulk of users don't care about this issue, or were supportive of OBS's move. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759499976909882483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-28594576126947739532014-12-16T13:33:37.106-03:002014-12-16T13:33:37.106-03:00It's Animal Farm The Roleplaying Game!It's Animal Farm The Roleplaying Game! Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-76470038993288607642014-12-16T06:58:23.628-03:002014-12-16T06:58:23.628-03:00There are competitors next to OBS.
It's not OB...There are competitors next to OBS.<br />It's not OBS fault that those basically suck and therefor get ignored by publishers and customers. It doesn't limit OBS to decide what they stock and which products they remove from their virtual shelfes.<br />OBS going down because they banned one product is about as likely as Target (Australia) closing because they kicked GTA IV.Teylenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00928739532408492514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-24016627379947526112014-12-16T03:04:58.505-03:002014-12-16T03:04:58.505-03:00For capitalism to work effectively, however, monop...For capitalism to work effectively, however, monopoly-breaking is very important. RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-14473101190783155552014-12-16T00:01:55.251-03:002014-12-16T00:01:55.251-03:00Seems like the time would be ripe for a competitor...Seems like the time would be ripe for a competitor to OBS to arise. I'm pretty sure when OBS got started they ran it on a shoestring budget and threw something hastily together and then grew the thing. That can be done again, and I'm pretty sure there's plenty of people out there perfectly capable of putting up a new shop. I'd suggest they make a point of identifying their mission statement as "We intend to distribute RPGs without censorship. Ever. For any reason. Regardless of what anyone may say, or whether or not this or that faction complains. You have an RPG - we'll publish it. Our goal is to give you choice because we live in a free society and we intend to make sure it stays that way." -- or something to that effect.vbwyrdehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14031787268876015417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-52102392521996552222014-12-15T23:46:18.571-03:002014-12-15T23:46:18.571-03:00This was the dumbest move that OBS could had done....This was the dumbest move that OBS could had done. It woke people up and I mean people from both sides. I literally mean from both sides. This is the first time I agreed with Ron and yet ended up disagreeing with ZakS. Hell ZakS made himself look stupid and a hypocrite when he called James sexist with no evidence to back it up. The fact ZakS waved off this entire thing put me into disbelief.Snowman0147https://www.blogger.com/profile/04811245101715889991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-11947340376102896982014-12-15T23:04:29.539-03:002014-12-15T23:04:29.539-03:00The thing about free markets is that they naturall...The thing about free markets is that they naturally breed monopolies. See Time Warner + Comcast, or AT&T + T-Mobile, or United + US Air. <br /><br />Furthermore, the sort of pressure that Evil Hat put on OBS is exactly what the free market demands. Small companies obey the rules. Big companies write the rules. <br /><br />DTRPG may someday be usurped as the go-to online RPG retailer, but you can bet censorship won't be the reason. Note that Wal-Mart is the world's largest company by revenue, despite the fact that they sell censored books and movies. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08759499976909882483noreply@blogger.com