tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post2898571362295747088..comments2024-03-09T19:23:22.482-03:00Comments on The RPGPundit: "RPGs for Kids" are not Really For KidsRPGPundithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-50166817254861638072018-09-26T00:04:15.089-04:002018-09-26T00:04:15.089-04:00Most kids I know really love rolling dice. Also, m...Most kids I know really love rolling dice. Also, most kids are more capable of handling mechanics than adults give them credit for. A six year old might not be able to handle all the vagaries of D&D basic, but a very slightly simpled-down version should work.<br /><br />Plus, a good way to teach basic numbers, addition and subtraction.RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-16783019340272401092018-09-25T13:01:09.724-04:002018-09-25T13:01:09.724-04:00I am not sure how to take this article - my 6 year...I am not sure how to take this article - my 6 year old loves fantasy and wants to play these games...on her own, she created a character that is an unicorn/human with a magic tail that tickles opponents so she can run past them. If they attack her, she uses her horn as a melee weapon. She wants to play a story with caves and witches - BUT...I need a simpler engine. So, please - find me a stripped down RPG and let us go wild. Otherwise I, as a parent who didn't play RPGs growing up, have to use these kiddie systems and just adapt the content based on my child.<br /><br />btw - she doesn't like NTYE because of the limitions on dice rolls - she really enjoys that partNeonPhyzicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032048594231820976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-27215124352123151962017-02-01T08:39:30.292-03:002017-02-01T08:39:30.292-03:00My kid played epic fantasy on FUDGE starting from ...My kid played epic fantasy on FUDGE starting from the age of 7. He prefered then to play young men. Not adult adult, but not a kid neitherAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11412336553576868910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-86910547123496748292016-03-04T02:11:12.844-03:002016-03-04T02:11:12.844-03:00Interesting, I want to play Golden Sky Stories and...Interesting, I want to play Golden Sky Stories and Ryuutama as they tell different types of stories and could be considered more "kid" friendly as they are simpler rules and less combat oriented. I like them due to their mechanics. I tried Hero Kids once with my son. Now he just plays 5th edition DnD.<br /><br />A simpler versions of rules work well with my 6 yr old and 4yr old girls, but that is just a lack of math skills, but for them I have just had them roll one straight d20 with "animal companion" type stat blocks and I do the math for them. So my daughter can be rainbow bright/wonder woman type warlock with a magic attack she uses every round.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00024850117055437412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-83435575484531350642016-03-02T02:22:35.264-03:002016-03-02T02:22:35.264-03:00No, I'm just bored and like messing with you.....No, I'm just bored and like messing with you... and pointing out your ignorance. Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-62298335887254380002016-03-02T02:21:45.970-03:002016-03-02T02:21:45.970-03:00No, I'm just bored and like messing with you.....No, I'm just bored and like messing with you... and pointing out your ignorance. Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-69524297899799455132016-03-02T02:19:09.537-03:002016-03-02T02:19:09.537-03:00Blogger does that on the mobile version for some r...Blogger does that on the mobile version for some reason. They're mobile support is terrible.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-79788714768368225752016-03-02T02:08:19.614-03:002016-03-02T02:08:19.614-03:00What's up with the double posts?What's up with the double posts?Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-12447451998447375432016-03-01T23:53:51.855-03:002016-03-01T23:53:51.855-03:00Well, I can't help that you seem to want to ju...Well, I can't help that you seem to want to just keep playing a guessing game of figuring out why you really feel so obsessively upset about this very short blog entry to end up writing way more than its original size, in hysterical rants.<br /><br />I would guess that it's something to do with your kids.RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-8353679581652512202016-03-01T23:30:56.452-03:002016-03-01T23:30:56.452-03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-57013284638961697122016-03-01T23:30:54.272-03:002016-03-01T23:30:54.272-03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-52135278385745971512016-03-01T23:30:24.992-03:002016-03-01T23:30:24.992-03:00Lock up your d20's. They're coming for the...Lock up your d20's. They're coming for them, Pundit. The gaming bogeymen will outlaw D&D forever, tie you down, and make you play story stick games.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-32612183325679998332016-03-01T23:27:36.084-03:002016-03-01T23:27:36.084-03:00Yes, another ad hominem attack over nothing (since...Yes, another ad hominem attack over nothing (since I have a Friday night game every weekend even while raising 3 pre-school aged children). <br /><br />You can only hurl insults because you have no actual leg to stand on. You did do any actual research or read any reviews for yet another one of your pointless rants. <br /><br />Good job!Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-68529773294963086502016-03-01T16:23:40.002-03:002016-03-01T16:23:40.002-03:00Every kids game has disgusting cutesy-poo art. Her...Every kids game has disgusting cutesy-poo art. Hero kids teaches kids dice pools, which is like teaching them to become terrorists. RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-24332619594140782032016-03-01T16:21:55.904-03:002016-03-01T16:21:55.904-03:00Man you are taking this personally. You must be ca...Man you are taking this personally. You must be carrying a lot of guilt over making your kids play RPGs with you. Can't find a regular group?RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-72223499669822073342016-03-01T15:20:26.754-03:002016-03-01T15:20:26.754-03:00and writing about it on their blog without any act...and writing about it on their blog without any actual input from players in that age group.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-80411439399956624782016-03-01T13:02:48.482-03:002016-03-01T13:02:48.482-03:00No, what got us Wesley Crusher was adult writers t...No, what got us Wesley Crusher was adult writers trying to write a teenager without getting input from actual teenagers... which is a lot like adult RPG players assuming what they know what kids want out of an RPG.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-86376467250593251332016-03-01T12:09:47.833-03:002016-03-01T12:09:47.833-03:00For anyone *actually* interested in how these kind...For anyone *actually* interested in how these kinds of games play with kids, instead of reading Pundit's no-experience opinion, you can read reviews of people who have *actually played* these games with their kids (what a concept):<br /><br />http://www.madadventurers.com/rpggamerdad-yes-please-no-thank-you-evil/<br />http://oldmenrollingdice.blogspot.com/2014/01/my-review-of-hero-kids.html<br />http://www.wired.com/2013/01/hero-kids/<br />http://www.nerdsonearth.com/2015/06/review-of-hero-kids/<br />http://usandacat.com/thelair/2014/my-hero-kids-and-their-first-rpg-session/<br />http://stuffershack.com/rpg-review-hero-kids/<br /><br />And lots more on Google...Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-44449111748849553182016-03-01T11:38:34.119-03:002016-03-01T11:38:34.119-03:00Citation for #5 above:
https://plus.google.com/u/0...Citation for #5 above:<br />https://plus.google.com/u/0/108006304228021078063/posts/E8Uy2cCuxTHRaging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-84852800495014025602016-03-01T11:35:45.738-03:002016-03-01T11:35:45.738-03:00Pundit is:
1) Not a behavioral psychologist. - che...Pundit is:<br />1) Not a behavioral psychologist. - check<br />2) Does not have kids. - check<br />3) Doesn't play "Let's pretend" games with kids between 5 and 10. - check<br />4) Didn't actually read the rules of the games he is criticizing. - check<br />5) Did not realize these games he criticized are meant for kids between 4 and 8, ages which he considers "too young" for RPGs. - check<br />6) Thinks his remembrance of being a 9 year old and a single gaming experience with a 9 year old as an adult makes him an expert. - check<br /><br />Has no basis for forming a valid opinion on this subject. CHECK.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-21891492586286309072016-03-01T03:42:19.724-03:002016-03-01T03:42:19.724-03:00Yes. It's a common error of adults, not just i...Yes. It's a common error of adults, not just in RPGs, but in movies, tv, comics, etc. to think that what kids want is to see 'someone like them' being the hero. That's what got us Wesley Crusher.<br /><br />There's also the separate phenomenon of shows featuring kid characters that are actually more about appealing to adults than to kids. The people making these know that certain adults create a nostalgic notion of their own childhood that leads them to wanting that fantasy confirmed.<br /><br />Finally, yes, there are examples of media featuring kid characters that do turn out to be good. The one unifying feature all of these have (but not only these, so it's not a guarantee of success) is that the kids in these media always either act like adults or have to take on the responsibilities of adults because the adults are somehow missing, incompetent or otherwise compromised.<br /><br />This is all in reference to kids, not teens. Because the difference is that teens consider themselves adults already, so they don't need to fantasize about being older. Teens just want to see teens (or in the case of TV and film, 20 or 30-somethings pretending to be teens) in a position where they don't have to do what adults want them to.RPGPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267330191433119298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-1078753069641455082016-03-01T02:33:19.370-03:002016-03-01T02:33:19.370-03:00Pundit doesn't know either because he has neit...Pundit doesn't know either because he has neither played nor even read the rules. He is posting a completely uninformed opinion on a subject he knows little about since he neither has children nor has played games with children in the age groups for which these games are intended.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-16804061405079411952016-02-29T19:10:15.987-03:002016-02-29T19:10:15.987-03:00I agree with you 100% Pundit.
When I was a kid I...I agree with you 100% Pundit. <br /><br />When I was a kid I dreamed about being an Adult, doing adult things. Not about being a kid with a magic teddy bear or hot rod bicycle. <br /><br />It's the reason the Star Wars films have sucked since and including "Return of the Jedi". The Ewoks was Lucas pandering to what he "thought" kids wanted in the films. As if they couldn't identify with the adult characters. The Ewoks were originally supposed to be Wookies which would have been great. Sad how an amazing creator can loose his mind by second guessing his own work. <br /><br />When we are young we are in a rush to grow up and find adventure, and when we get older we pine for the carefree days of our youth.Gwarhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15245346128436771591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-82144295689020451612016-02-29T18:58:49.685-03:002016-02-29T18:58:49.685-03:00My 6 year old is into playing RPGs. She has no int...My 6 year old is into playing RPGs. She has no interest in playing as an adult. She wants to play as a baby dragon. Ultraviolent and chaotic, but a baby dragon.<br /><br />This post goes completely wrong in thinking that it's actually possible to understand what kids actually want in this regard. They invent their own RPG scenarios way before we ever get wind that they're doing it. God forbid someone should try to put together a game that facilitates that inherent proclivity.<br /><br />The quoted games are targeted at the adults because this enables the adult to engage with the role playing the kids are doing anyway, and do so in a way that the adult feels comfortable doing so. Doesn't hurt that the adults probably have money to buy them either.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05201791953410418533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2600947515654238699.post-5843240663111848952016-02-29T18:43:31.291-03:002016-02-29T18:43:31.291-03:00RPG-like media where main characters are not adult...RPG-like media where main characters are not adults (in which a kid might want to roleplay):<br />My Little Pony<br />Paw Patrol<br />Spy Kids<br />Dora the Explorer<br />Jake and the Neverland Pirates<br />Teen Titans<br />... dozens more...<br /><br />Are you saying no kids want to role-play in these worlds? My 5 year old daughter would disagree pretty strongly with that opinion.Raging Owlbearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556804177905125874noreply@blogger.com